Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:51:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:31:42 +0100 From: eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Some rants To: info-tcpware@process.com Reply-To: Info-TCPware@process.com Message-ID: <446df2ee$1@news.langstoeger.at> May I again rant on TCPware? *) When will TCPware be in .PCSI format (instead of VMSINSTAL)? I like to be able to deinstall it within minutes (and not days)... *) When will TCPware FTP accept filenames in the case I write them (instead of lowercasing them, until I quote them)? TCPIP does it... *) When will BIND9 be available? I like to be able to use allow-recursion and other new features soon. TCPIP has it... *) When will change password in SSH stop to logout after the pwdchg? TCPIP is able to continue logging in... btw: Why can't I SSH login in parallel into a user which is in SSH pwdchg mode? *) Is TCPware already able to use more than 10k sockets? I haven't tried for years (and TCPIP is able now and we need it)... *) Is somebody testing TCPware with VMS 8.3 already? and more to come I'm used to TCPware for over 15 years now and it was always way better than UCX (and TCPIP). But since a couple of years, TCPIP has advantages somewhere and TCPware still didn't totally catch up. And I hate to downgrade to TCPIP just for these other features. So please make my day soon... But then again, I'm only a hobbyist -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:00:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:58:23 -0600 From: Dan O'Reilly Reply-To: Info-TCPware@process.com Subject: Re: Some rants In-Reply-To: <446df2ee$1@news.langstoeger.at> To: info-tcpware@process.com CC: info-tcpware@process.com Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060519085114.02a9c030@raptor.psccos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <446df2ee$1@news.langstoeger.at> At 09:31 AM 5/19/2006, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: >May I again rant on TCPware? > >*) When will change password in SSH stop to logout after the pwdchg? >TCPIP is able to continue logging in... Wait for the next ECO to come out (should be soon). That will depend upon your client's capabilities, but most recent clients will be able to work like this. Note that we actually had this capability a couple years ago, but a) the SECSH working group kept changing their mind as to how to do password changing, and b) hardly any clients supported it; hence, it got removed at the time. >btw: Why can't I SSH login in parallel into a user which is in SSH pwdchg >mode? Can you clarify? ------ +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | Dan O'Reilly | "There are 10 types of people in this | | Principal Engineer | world: those who understand binary | | Process Software | and those who don't." | | http://www.process.com | | +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:09:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:02:25 -0400 From: Geoff Bryant Reply-To: Info-TCPware@process.com Subject: Re: Some rants In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Fri, 19 May 2006 16:31:42 +0100" <446df2ee$1@news.langstoeger.at> To: info-tcpware@process.com CC: bryant@process.com Message-ID: <01M2LR6DOR909890V9@alcor.process.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii info-tcpware@process.com wrote: > >*) When will TCPware be in .PCSI format (instead of VMSINSTAL)? >I like to be able to deinstall it within minutes (and not days)... This is unlikely. We support back to VMS 5.5 where the PRODUCT command doesn't exist. >*) When will BIND9 be available? >I like to be able to use allow-recursion and other new features soon. >TCPIP has it... Next release. >*) Is TCPware already able to use more than 10k sockets? >I haven't tried for years (and TCPIP is able now and we need it)... Yes. This was a VMS restriction and not a TCPware restriction. I think it was VMS 7.3-2 that removed the restriction, but I might have the version wrong. >*) Is somebody testing TCPware with VMS 8.3 already? Yes. An ECO is needed. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:21:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:06:58 +0100 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: Some rants To: info-tcpware@process.com Reply-To: Info-TCPware@process.com Message-ID: <446e0942@news.langstoeger.at> In article <01M2LR6DOR909890V9@alcor.process.com>, Geoff Bryant writes: >info-tcpware@process.com wrote: >> >>*) When will TCPware be in .PCSI format (instead of VMSINSTAL)? >>I like to be able to deinstall it within minutes (and not days)... > >This is unlikely. We support back to VMS 5.5 where the PRODUCT command >doesn't exist. Then please offer both versions (like DEC did for some products, like FORTRAN). Or offer a working/supported uninstall routine with every TCPware version. Or ask DEC to offer a PCSI ECO for V5.5 ;-) And of course change the TCPware ECOs to PCSI also... >>*) When will BIND9 be available? >>I like to be able to use allow-recursion and other new features soon. >>TCPIP has it... > >Next release. Named how? Which is when? Another 3 years? I need it now... >>*) Is TCPware already able to use more than 10k sockets? >>I haven't tried for years (and TCPIP is able now and we need it)... > >Yes. This was a VMS restriction and not a TCPware restriction. I >think it was VMS 7.3-2 that removed the restriction, but I might have >the version wrong. Good to know. But then again, why is the configuration parameter in TCPIP and not in VMS? >>*) Is somebody testing TCPware with VMS 8.3 already? > >Yes. An ECO is needed. Is the ECO already official? I probably start with a few 8.3 tests in June Thanks a responding and have a nice weekend -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:17:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:15:42 -0400 From: Richard Whalen Reply-To: Info-TCPware@process.com Subject: RE: Some rants To: info-tcpware@process.com Message-ID: <3EF96AF20489A34296050FBD5C36ECB93BCFCA@beacon.PSC.process.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>*) Is somebody testing TCPware with VMS 8.3 already? >> >>Yes. An ECO is needed. > >Is the ECO already official? >I probably start with a few 8.3 tests in June No, the ECO is not "official". As long as 8.3 is in field test any patches that are needed for TCPware = will only be issued to those that explicitly request them.